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Tyrant Scorn
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:08:00 -
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Dear CCP Falcon,
How do you deal with harassment outside the game media, for example on TeamSpeak or Mumble ?
I have had multiple instances where people would insult me to a point where they would insult my family, threaten to kill my dog, come to my house and do something to me or beat me up at fanfest. I even had a guy tell me I should get cancer and die.
How do I deal with that ? CCP has no authority outside of the ingame media, however the out of game comms are an extension and are directly related to the game.
I am an adult and I have pretty thick skin and yet, I am man enough to admit that something inside me broke when certain people made those insults. I felt really hurt and it touched a sensitive side of me and instead of getting angry I could do nothing other then feel really bad about it.
So, how do you deal with things like that ? Can I come to CCP and ask for action taken against these individuals ? Do I have to supply a recording ?
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Posted - 2014.03.28 19:32:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:Tyrant Scorn wrote:Dear CCP Falcon,
How do you deal with harassment outside the game media, for example on TeamSpeak or Mumble ?
I have had multiple instances where people would insult me to a point where they would insult my family, threaten to kill my dog, come to my house and do something to me or beat me up at fanfest. I even had a guy tell me I should get cancer and die.
How do I deal with that ? CCP has no authority outside of the ingame media, however the out of game comms are an extension and are directly related to the game.
I am an adult and I have pretty thick skin and yet, I am man enough to admit that something inside me broke when certain people made those insults. I felt really hurt and it touched a sensitive side of me and instead of getting angry I could do nothing other then feel really bad about it.
So, how do you deal with things like that ? Can I come to CCP and ask for action taken against these individuals ? Do I have to supply a recording ? In almost all instances similar to what you describe, we would advise you to contact local authorities if you feel threatened or if you feel that laws have been broken. It's not common that events taking place outside the game or our websites result in disciplinary action from us due to obvious reasons, but we do reserve the right to restrict access to your services when we find them to be used for violating the EULA. Players are of course always welcome to contact us and ask for advice or assistance.
Maybe you should read my post again CCP Guard. You addressed like 10% of my post and completely ignored the rest.
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Tyrant Scorn
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Posted - 2014.03.28 20:50:00 -
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I am just going through that soundcloud recording with Erotica1 and I can't fault anyone for trying to scam. I think its more amazing that the guy who got scammed was so patient with all of it. It took him like an hour and 45 minutes to go berserk.
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Tyrant Scorn
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:11:00 -
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Ok, here is a question for all of you.
So, the debate has been going on ever since that Erotica1 thing happened and half the community is in an uproar over what he's done to this poor guy... But he used fair game mechanics and he never used any hostile language doing it all.
The guy who got scammed is actually the one who is offensive and using all sorts of threats and curse words.
Who is actually breaking the rules in this particular case ?
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:17:00 -
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Vance Armistice wrote:Tyrant Scorn wrote:Ok, here is a question for all of you.
So, the debate has been going on ever since that Erotica1 thing happened and half the community is in an uproar over what he's done to this poor guy... But he used fair game mechanics and he never used any hostile language doing it all.
The guy who got scammed is actually the one who is offensive and using all sorts of threats and curse words.
Who is actually breaking the rules in this particular case ? Hellman's, Ready Whip and Jiffy all broke rules as I understood the thread
How did they break the rules ?
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Tyrant Scorn
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:25:00 -
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Vance Armistice wrote:Tyrant Scorn wrote:Ok, here is a question for all of you.
So, the debate has been going on ever since that Erotica1 thing happened and half the community is in an uproar over what he's done to this poor guy... But he used fair game mechanics and he never used any hostile language doing it all.
The guy who got scammed is actually the one who is offensive and using all sorts of threats and curse words.
Who is actually breaking the rules in this particular case ? Hellman's, Ready Whip and Jiffy all broke rules as I understood the thread
Can anyone break down for me who broke what rules ? because to me it sounds like the guy going berserk is the one breaking the rules in terms of making threats and using very hostile language...
Malcanis, maybe you can elaborate on this ? Since you seem very active in this topic.
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Tyrant Scorn
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:29:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:
They already had ALL of his stuff. They literally had nothing left to gain from him IN GAME.
So yeah no, you're the bullshitter.
And you know it.
And CCP agree with me, so as previously advised, suck it up buttercup. I'm in 319- if you want to make something of it.
Can you please answer my question mate ?
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:34:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:
No I'm tired and I've had enough. If what I've already posted hasn't made the reality clear, then anything I post after this won't do it either.
I've earned my free holiday to Iceland, and you can all **** off and act like sensible human beings.
I believe I have not misbehaved. I was merely asking a question because I am genuinely interested in knowing the answer.
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:38:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Tyrant Scorn wrote:Malcanis wrote:
No I'm tired and I've had enough. If what I've already posted hasn't made the reality clear, then anything I post after this won't do it either.
I've earned my free holiday to Iceland, and you can all **** off and act like sensible human beings.
I believe I have not misbehaved. I was merely asking a question because I am genuinely interested in knowing the answer. You should have asked sooner then. Too bad.
Ok, what ever dude...
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Tyrant Scorn
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:53:00 -
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So let me get a stab at this...
Erotica1 and friends scam someone from all of his assets and his isk and made a recording of them trolling him on TeamSpeak while they are doing it. Keep in mind, the victim goes through the process of contracting all of his assets to the scammers and doing this willingly.
After an hour and 45 minutes the victim goes completely berserk and starts threatening the scammers with real life threats, he calls them names and at some point even goes as far as using racist terms such as the N word.
Mind everyone, Erotica1 and his friends stay completely cool and have done nothing out of the ordinary for ingame Eve Online standards. They are not responsible for other peoples stupidity and can not see into the future that their actions will set the victim off like this. But it is in no way their fault. Every man is responsible for what he says regardless. A scamming action is no valid reason for calling people the N word or threatening them in real life. There is no justification for any of what the victim said to them, period.
But now, from what I understand CCP faults Erotica1 and his friends for what they have done...
Is it me or did their morals drop down below zero on this ? I think the fact someone is using such language, in such a hostile way is far more offensive then what Erotica1 did. In fact, CCP nurtures scamming behavior... So who is at fault here and why ????
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Posted - 2014.03.28 22:19:00 -
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So what it all comes down to is that I can no longer gank people in WH space, because I might gank a thin skinned cry baby who goes all berserk on me and reports me to CCP... is that what's happening here now ?
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Tyrant Scorn
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Posted - 2014.03.28 22:27:00 -
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Vance Armistice wrote:Tyrant Scorn wrote:So what it all comes down to is that I can no longer gank people in WH space, because I might gank a thin skinned cry baby who goes all berserk on me and reports me to CCP... is that what's happening here now ? I heard that too...I think they are going to make it a thing in the next patch. No,not really I'm just messing with you. Take a breath...in..now...out... Repeat after me: "Unless I go completely outside the bounds of acceptable human behavior I will still be able to do all the things I currently enjoy doing in this game" That help? If you want examples of unacceptable human behavior listen to some E1 recordings.
Who was unacceptable in that recording ? All I heard from the victim is N words, gutting peoples mother, threatening people... Who was crossing the line in that recording... you tell me... please, because I don't have a switch where I twist my morals around and allow myself to feel sorry for the victim.
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Tyrant Scorn
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Posted - 2014.03.28 22:37:00 -
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Vance Armistice wrote:Genseric Tollaris wrote:Can someone give me a quick TL;DR of the thread please? whinge..whine...I can't do this....Malcanis can I do that?...whinge...exchange full tear jar with an empty....whinge...what if?...what if?...what if?....Malcanis? ....Malcanis?....Malcanis?....Malcanis?...exchange full tear jar with an empty...snifle... DO try and keep up!
That is a pretty nice write up brah, you should be a writer !
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Tyrant Scorn
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Posted - 2014.03.29 03:24:00 -
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